Traffic Monsoon Vs SEC - 1º Dia de Julgamento.
1º DIA DE JULGAMENTO ENTRE AS EMPRESAS
Como todos sabem a empresa Traffic Monsoon andou tendo alguns problemas sérios quando foi considerado pelo paypal um site Scam ou Ponzi...
Sendo assim o Paypal congelou os fundos da empresa por 06 Meses de acordo com as leis dos E.U.A e após a liberação do mesmo a própria paypal pediu que pessoas que estivessem com raiva denunciassem a Traffic Monsoon para o Governo dos E.U.A e a famosa SEC e como já era de se esperar a SEC entrou com um processo Judicial contra a TM e segurou os fundos libertados pelo paypal e retirou o nosso site do ar....
Quer saber tudo que rolou antes do primeiro dia de Julgamento acesse agora o link > http://www.vivendodecliques.com/2016/07/traffic-monsoon-x-sec-tudo-sobre-o-que.html
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01/11/2016 - Apresentação de Ambas empresas para o Senhor Juiz
Update about the Preliminary Hearing on 11-1-2016:
The hearing is on recess until 11-3-2016
Here is one of Charles's comments on what went on Tuesday:
Charles Scoville
One of the best questions asked to the SEC's witness yesterday Peggy Hunt (she being an attorney): "What if all your customer's funds in your trust account were frozen, and your customers were owed money back from their retainer and you couldn't pay them because the funds are frozen. Have you committed fraud?" -- her answer was, "absolutely not."
That's precisely what happened with Traffic Monsoon and PayPal. Yes, people earned money on Traffic Monsoon and PayPal had frozen the funds. PayPal themselves reported to customers via phone calls and email that traffic monsoon did not have money to pay them (even though we did) and suggested customers of traffic monsoon to contact the sec and fbi to report TM has a scam. PayPal also reported TM as a ponzi even though there was way more money available to pay everyone what they have earned. No guarantee of income, no investment offered, only the offer to pay people to click on ads from money people spent to buy the services.
Charles Scoville
The SEC sure wasted a lot of time today, and there was several hours of testimony that actually never really focused on the meat of the case. What we discovered today... is the SEC star attorney Daniel Wadley has no clue what Traffic Monsoon actually is, and actually want to try to pull a fast one by the Honorable Judge Jill Parrish. Daniel Wadley wants the judge to believe that a ponzi is paying people from sales.
The SEC's Daniel Wadley twisting of definitions, twisting of details, twisting of facts, and actually ignoring what was written on the website. Their star witness, Peggy Hunt, claimed she didn't know almost anything about what was written on the website and got so many facts and figures wrong-- the SEC had to correct her multiple times on her own testimony.
Ponzi = Gaining investors to pay earlier investors .. in order to satisfy a debt. That's the key. The key of a ponzi is when Person A is owed $5 (example) and the company doesn't have the $5. The only way to pay Person A the $5 the company owes them is to collect it from Person B -- and they gain that money by promising them returns on their money. Which then they owe them returns too, and they have to gain more money to pay the money they have told Person B they have earned *already* but the money doesn't actually exist.. so to pay the money they have told Person B they have earned is by getting Person C to invest by offering a high interest rate which they actually can't afford to pay..
If you're paying people using money already received in sales of service, and rewarding people from that money when they click on ads.. it's not a ponzi. How stupid does the SEC think the judge is trying to pass that definition by her using a witness such as Peggy Hunt who can't even remember anything, has no idea that 728x90 banners cost *minimum* $100 - but with an adpack the buyer can get them for $50, and there's a difference in country targeting with the services being offered.
The SEC wasted a lot of time to drag this on, and very little was even discussed relating to whether Traffic Monsoon was actually a ponzi or even an investment. Other than this statement about this defintion of Ponzi briefly mentioned, the rest of the day was nearly pointless. We're in recess until Thursday at 9:00am.
I can't believe how much time the SEC wasted today. It does appear they are trying to twist and pass half truths as reality. Peggy once again said she didn't know what EVP international is, even though screenshot was plainly provided to her, and she could have setup a payza account for herself and selected "add funds by wire transfer" and found the instructions to add funds to payza are to send funds to EVP international. Until she can verify this single fact, she is unwilling to provide me money for food. But the facts have already been provided to her. When asked if she knows what EVP international is (while she was looking at that screenshot) she said she doesn't know. Unbelievable. The twisting of truth and lying going on is truly evil and has crossed the line.
The SEC truly doesn't care about the people's live's they are impacting by making this case drag on and on. That much is clear. They are more interested in their careers, people they have associations with, and looking good in front of their friends, than the fact that people are hurting in their lives wanting to see this come to a quicker resolution. They care more about climbing the corporate ladder, than worrying about protecting people. They truly only care about themselves... so busy with their own lives, Amy Oliver traveling internationally, to be bothered to wrap this case up and get people's lives back on track.
TRADUÇÃO
Atualizar sobre a Audiência Preliminar em 2016/11/01:
A audiência está em recesso até 2016/11/03
Aqui está um dos comentários de Charles sobre o que se passou na terça-feira:
Charles Scoville
Uma das melhores perguntas feitas às testemunhas da SEC ontem Peggy Hunt (sendo ela um advogado): "E se todo o seu fundos do cliente na sua conta de confiança foram congelados, e seus clientes eram devidos dinheiro de volta a partir de sua retenção e você não poderia pagá-los porque os fundos estão congelados. você cometeu fraude? " - Sua resposta foi: "Absolutamente não."
Isso é precisamente o que aconteceu com Traffic Monsoon e PayPal. Sim, as pessoas ganhou dinheiro em tráfego Monsoon e PayPal congelou os fundos.PayPal-se relatou para os clientes através de telefonemas e e-mail que monções tráfego não tinha dinheiro para pagá-los (mesmo que fizemos) e sugeriu clientes de monção tráfego para entrar em contato com a SEC eo FBI para relatar TM tem um scam. PayPal também relataram TM como um ponzi, apesar de haver muito mais dinheiro disponível para pagar a todos o que eles ganharam. Não há garantia de renda, nenhum investimento oferecido, somente a oferta de pagar as pessoas a clicar em anúncios pessoas de dinheiro gasto para comprar os serviços.
Charles Scoville
A SEC certeza desperdiçado muito tempo hoje, e havia várias horas de testemunho de que, na verdade, nunca realmente voltados para a carne do caso. O que descobrimos hoje ... é o advogado da estrela SEC Daniel Wadley tem nenhum indício o tráfego Monsoon realmente é, e realmente quero tentar puxar um rápido pela honorável juiz Jill Parrish. Daniel Wadley quer o juiz a acreditar que um ponzi está pagando as pessoas de vendas.
Daniel Wadley torção de definições, torção de detalhes, torção de fatos, e, na verdade, ignorando o que estava escrito no site da SEC. O seu testemunho estrela, Peggy Hunt, alegou que ela não sabia quase nada sobre o que foi escrito no site e tem tantos fatos e números wrong-- o SEC teve que corrigir seus várias vezes em seu próprio testemunho.
Ponzi = Ganhar investidores para pagar investidores anteriores .. a fim de satisfazer uma dívida. Essa é a chave. A chave de um ponzi é quando a pessoa A é devida R $ 5 (exemplo) e a empresa não tem os US $ 5. A única maneira de pagar Pessoa Um dos US $ 5 a empresa lhes deve é recolher-lo da Pessoa B - e eles ganham o dinheiro, prometendo-lhes retorna em seu dinheiro. Que então eles devemos a eles retorna também, e eles têm de ganhar mais dinheiro para pagar o dinheiro que eles têm dito Pessoa B eles ganharam * já * mas o dinheiro na verdade não existe .. então pagar o dinheiro que eles têm dito Pessoa B eles ganharam está começando Pessoa C para investir, oferecendo uma alta taxa de juros que eles realmente não podem pagar ..
Se você está pagando as pessoas usando o dinheiro já recebido em vendas de serviço, e recompensar as pessoas de que o dinheiro quando eles clicar em anúncios .. não é um ponzi. O quão estúpido é que a SEC acho que o juiz está tentando passar essa definição por ela usando uma testemunha, como Peggy Hunt, que não pode nem mesmo se lembra de nada, não tem idéia do que 728x90 banners custam * mínimo * $ 100 - mas com uma AdPack o comprador pode obtê-los por US $ 50, e há uma diferença na segmentação do país com os serviços que estão sendo oferecidos.
a SEC desperdiçado muito tempo para arrastar esta, e muito pouco foi sequer discutido relativa ao facto de Tráfego Monsoon foi realmente um ponzi ou mesmo um investimento. Outros que esta declaração sobre o defintion de Ponzi brevemente mencionado, o resto do dia era quase inútil. Nós estamos em recesso até quinta-feira às 09:00.
Eu não posso acreditar quanto tempo a SEC desperdiçado hoje. Ele parece que eles estão tentando torcer e passar meias verdades como realidade.Peggy, mais uma vez disse que não sabia o que EVP internacional é, embora screenshot foi claramente fornecido para ela, e ela poderia ter configurar uma conta AlertPay para si mesma e selecionado "adicionar fundos por transferência bancária" e encontrou as instruções para adicionar fundos à Payza devem enviar fundos para EVP internacional. Até que ela pode verificar esta única verdade, ela não está disposta a fornecer-me dinheiro para comprar comida. Mas os fatos já foram concedidas para ela. Quando perguntado se ela sabe o que EVP internacional é (enquanto ela estava olhando para aquela imagem), ela disse que ela não sabe. Inacreditável. A torção da verdade e mentira acontecendo é realmente mal e cruzou a linha.
A SEC realmente não se preocupa com as pessoas de de que eles estão impactando fazendo neste caso arrastar sobre e sobre viver. Isso é muito claro. Eles estão mais interessados em suas carreiras, as pessoas que têm associações com, e com boa aparência na frente de seus amigos, que o fato de que as pessoas estão sofrendo em suas vidas querendo ver este chegar a uma resolução mais rápida. Eles se preocupam mais sobre subir a escada corporativa, do que se preocupar sobre como proteger as pessoas. Eles realmente só se preocupam com eles mesmos ... tão ocupados com suas próprias vidas, Amy Oliver viagem internacional, a ser incomodado para quebrar este caso e obter a vida das pessoas de volta aos trilhos.
| The hearing is on recess until 11-3-2016 Here is one of Charles's comments on what went on Tuesday: Charles Scoville One of the best questions asked to the SEC's witness yesterday Peggy Hunt (she being an attorney): "What if all your customer's funds in your trust account were frozen, and your customers were owed money back from their retainer and you couldn't pay them because the funds are frozen. Have you committed fraud?" -- her answer was, "absolutely not." That's precisely what happened with Traffic Monsoon and PayPal. Yes, people earned money on Traffic Monsoon and PayPal had frozen the funds. PayPal themselves reported to customers via phone calls and email that traffic monsoon did not have money to pay them (even though we did) and suggested customers of traffic monsoon to contact the sec and fbi to report TM has a scam. PayPal also reported TM as a ponzi even though there was way more money available to pay everyone what they have earned. No guarantee of income, no investment offered, only the offer to pay people to click on ads from money people spent to buy the services. Charles Scoville The SEC sure wasted a lot of time today, and there was several hours of testimony that actually never really focused on the meat of the case. What we discovered today... is the SEC star attorney Daniel Wadley has no clue what Traffic Monsoon actually is, and actually want to try to pull a fast one by the Honorable Judge Jill Parrish. Daniel Wadley wants the judge to believe that a ponzi is paying people from sales. The SEC's Daniel Wadley twisting of definitions, twisting of details, twisting of facts, and actually ignoring what was written on the website. Their star witness, Peggy Hunt, claimed she didn't know almost anything about what was written on the website and got so many facts and figures wrong-- the SEC had to correct her multiple times on her own testimony. Ponzi = Gaining investors to pay earlier investors .. in order to satisfy a debt. That's the key. The key of a ponzi is when Person A is owed $5 (example) and the company doesn't have the $5. The only way to pay Person A the $5 the company owes them is to collect it from Person B -- and they gain that money by promising them returns on their money. Which then they owe them returns too, and they have to gain more money to pay the money they have told Person B they have earned *already* but the money doesn't actually exist.. so to pay the money they have told Person B they have earned is by getting Person C to invest by offering a high interest rate which they actually can't afford to pay.. If you're paying people using money already received in sales of service, and rewarding people from that money when they click on ads.. it's not a ponzi. How stupid does the SEC think the judge is trying to pass that definition by her using a witness such as Peggy Hunt who can't even remember anything, has no idea that 728x90 banners cost *minimum* $100 - but with an adpack the buyer can get them for $50, and there's a difference in country targeting with the services being offered. The SEC wasted a lot of time to drag this on, and very little was even discussed relating to whether Traffic Monsoon was actually a ponzi or even an investment. Other than this statement about this defintion of Ponzi briefly mentioned, the rest of the day was nearly pointless. We're in recess until Thursday at 9:00am. I can't believe how much time the SEC wasted today. It does appear they are trying to twist and pass half truths as reality. Peggy once again said she didn't know what EVP international is, even though screenshot was plainly provided to her, and she could have setup a payza account for herself and selected "add funds by wire transfer" and found the instructions to add funds to payza are to send funds to EVP international. Until she can verify this single fact, she is unwilling to provide me money for food. But the facts have already been provided to her. When asked if she knows what EVP international is (while she was looking at that screenshot) she said she doesn't know. Unbelievable. The twisting of truth and lying going on is truly evil and has crossed the line. The SEC truly doesn't care about the people's live's they are impacting by making this case drag on and on. That much is clear. They are more interested in their careers, people they have associations with, and looking good in front of their friends, than the fact that people are hurting in their lives wanting to see this come to a quicker resolution. They care more about climbing the corporate ladder, than worrying about protecting people. They truly only care about themselves... so busy with their own lives, Amy Oliver traveling internationally, to be bothered to wrap this case up and get people's lives back on track. TRADUÇÃO
Atualizar sobre a Audiência Preliminar em 2016/11/01:
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Próxima Audiência marcada para o dia 03/11/2016
Próxima Audiência marcada para o dia 30/11/2016
Próxima Audiência marcada para o dia 30/11/2016
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